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February 18, 2009

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James

Hello Dan,

I've been reading your blog for a while now. Interesting thoughts. I do have a question. Why is it that so many people in "the ministry" today pour cold water on the churches of their childhood?

Most of everything we are today was begun in us during those formative years. Our pastors taught us much of what we know, and those churches are what our foundation is built upon today.

Maybe we should be thankful for the blessings of the past, rather than looking at them with a jaundice eye. Rather than blaming the church for not being engaging (Paul wasn't very engaging to the youth who fell out the window), we should realize we were juvenile, immature adolescents that didn't engage ourselves.

In the ministry when I began I wanted to be different. I tried everything, but I learned something. No matter what I tried nothing made me content in the ministry. Modern, traditional, contemporary became just labels on the same empty bottle.

Until I stopped looking, and started just focusing on true spirituality I was wandering. It is either total surrender to Christ and His Word or the love of the world, which is enmity with God.

I now realize that what I wanted was not what God wanted. He wanted me in absolute surrender. I now look back on my youth days in the church you describe and realize that had it not been for the truth set before me by what you refer to as a "long winded preacher" who cared for my soul, those "boring songs" and "judgmental people", I would not be saved or serving God today.

Let's be careful the way we frame the past. We might just be letting our petty bitterness steer us away from God's reality for our lives.

By the way: Bono is no example in how to live. His hypocrisy is too obvious. The Pastor from your youth would be a much better choice:)

Dan Sardinas

Hey James,

Thanks for stopping by. I'm very sorry to have given the impression of dogging my church growing up. I don't believe I expressed myself appropriately there. Even though as I look back those words were pretty potent.

I Am grateful for the church I grew up in. What I was trying to say was I had felt a certain disconnect in some ways...which later came out as longing for a contemporary church. So, although I disagree with some things about my time there I am still grateful for what God did in me there. IT was there that I turned my life around. It was there where I was baptized. I wouldn't traded that for anything!

Sorry bro to have not been more clear. It's a part of the journey. Each step of the journey is a path to the future...without all of the steps, we can't move forward.

Although Bono is not the perfect example...I was referring in his video to his passion over justice. I feel we should all have that same passion.

Thanks,

Dan

Jess

Just commenting for the sake of commenting... didn't want you to think I'd stopped reading! :)

Enjoy the sun, Lori and Brandon look happy to not be wearing coats!

Russ

I don't believe that wanting to feed the fire in our soul, started by God's Spirit, requires an apology. We have each traveled different roads from our youth, seen and heard from various pastoral types, and taken away some good... and some less-than-good. Sometimes we've been running from God. At other times we run to Him. I even wonder if there are times when both happen simultaneously...

The real rub with true spirituality is that it is found in the context of the Church, and all the more in the fuller expression Thereof. So maybe we can agree that it is not the package that any of us hungers and thirsts for, but an authentic expression of the Body of Christ.

The dry, long-winded, boring nature of similar church experiences in my past have lead me to conclude that God is so great (greater even than my own need of Him) that He continually breaks through using these less-than-ideal forums! So... does His grace in using the imperfect church context in fact sanction that (or any other) particular forum as off-limits for critique or discussion as to how well it measures up to the heart's desire for a fuller expression of the Body of Christ? I think not.

I do not see this as bitterness. This is the longing of the soul... for more.

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